GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – July 14 2015 MEETING MINUTES

We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant.

Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu. This helps Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area. 

7:30 PM  – Meeting starts

Your secretary arrived about 8 pm due to an 7:30pm SJ Earthquakes game at Avaya Stadium on Coleman Ave & 880. Sat in stop-n-go traffic on Coleman for nearly 30 minutes.

Looking ahead, will check if any more games are held on 2nd Tuesdays. So Albert took minutes for the first half. When we receive his notes they will be published Thank you Albert !

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed members & guests.Also suggested someone should try the Twin Peaks trail in South Tahoe near Sawmill Pond, adopted by Tahoe Hi-Lo. Runners.

Vice President – Brian: Spoke in detail about about the Deer Valley run.

Treasurer – Don: Report about ____. Only a few members have not paid up  yet.  If paying by mail, it’s: Gettin’ Off 4×4,  attn: Don West, PO Box 314, Felton CA  95018

Secretary – Paul:  Noted that Eldorado National Forest published a new status report on the 42 Routes ( see ‘Saving Our Trails’ below).

Members Attending –  Aaron, Alicia, Brian, Chris, Don, Gary, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Mario, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K.

Brand New Members this month –  Michael  & Chris have fulfilled the 2-Run  3-Meeting attendance rule, and votes were taken, so — Welcome aboard gentlemen !!

Guests Attending –  Jimmy.

       (If I missed you or anyone else who attended please let  me know.)

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Club web page needs updates & maintenance. Eric looking into problem with editing. Also some are not getting emails from our Yahoo Groups server (Chris W for example).

2) Don will be ordering more T-shirts for our newest members, and anyone who wants to buy one. Terry & Don just found a new, suitable T-shirt vendor.

3) A updated membership list has been created; certain new members my be asked for more info such as email, phone, vehicle type & color.

4) Fire Permits are needed for any fire or stove used outside of improved campgrounds in National Forest or BLM areas, when allowed. As of July 1, many of the Forests in Calif have banned any type of open fire, so fire permits are of limited necessity. Brian suggests using http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/  to get one if needed.

5) Terry was contacted by an auto parts distributor for discounted parts for club members.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS UNDERWAY

1) Aaron – Lots & lots of stuff- to be updated.

2) Chris – new powder coat & bead-protectors rims on wheels

3) Terry – his new SUV got hit by crazy driver on  on-ramp; but nice job by body shop, looks brand new.

4) tba….

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) Jun 25, 26, 27  Slick Rock (& Deer Valley?) (was Rubicon). This was an  a overnight camping run.  About 4-5 participants. Drove up Thursday, hit the trail early Friday morning & finish on Sat afternoon.  Brian was trail boss. Heard that all sorts of stuff — good and not so great — occurred on the trail; more info pending.

2) July 4  weekend – Michael and buddies went camping up Hwy 4, Matley Ridge and Salt Springs Reservoir.

UPCOMING RUNS

3) POSTPONED to July – 24 & 25  Gold Lake & Snake Lake. Postponed so more could participate.  Overnight run, near Hwy 49, kinda centered between Downieville, Graeagle and Sierraville. Info at: http://4x4trailmaps.com/4x4Trails.php?Trail_ID=47   and  http://4x4trailmaps.com/OHVA.php?OHVA_ID=29. Essentially a new route for most of us, should be good ! Rated “Difficult” but not like Rubicon or Fordyce, perhaps more like our Adpot-a-Trial.. It was noticed that the Diablo 4Wheelers ran the trail on the 17th & 18th.  Updates coming next week. Needs a Trail Boss — anyone been there before?

4) August 11 – Club Meeting.

5) August 14,15,16  BBQ Run. Back to  Bear Valley Loop Trail. We will run less of the 20+ mile trail this time, avoiding most of the manzanita groves, but prepare for a little brush rash anyway. This is a moderately difficult route overall, with a few bypasses, so  all rigs are welcome. There is a really nice campground for groups, and we’ll have a evening run to a nearby mountain top for a gorgeous view. This year we’ll have a brand new sign-up list, showing all the BBQ equipment, food, cooking & clean-up responsibilities. A tow is needed to haul the BBQ trailer (~1200 lbs) up Hwy 80 & Back. —This person eats steak or ? dinner for free.  BBQ run is $10 per person, little kids free.  To participate in the evening Door Prize “competition”,  each attendee brings their own 4×4, automotive, or outdoor-related gift worth $10-$20.

To Sign-Up for the BBQ Run this year,  please go to: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GGH2262   (I think Paul H offered to tow the BBQ trailer there & back, so he gets the free meal !)

6) Sept. 8 – Club Meeting

6) Sept 12 – Deer Valley.  We’ll run the trail on Saturday, and you can stay Sat night at Terry’s new place in South Tahoe off Hwy 89. Hwy 4 Protocol (just like the Adopt-A-Trail run). 33″+ tires & 1 locker recommended. 

7) October 17 or 24 –  Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail run. 

8) November 25- 29- Death Valley / Panamint or somewhere else in the desert run (Calico Hills & area?).

9) December –  Toys for Tots & Christmas dinner.  

       Summer season note: It is possible certain National Forests may “close” mid-to-late summer due to fire hazard.

8:30 PM – Meeting adjourns.

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in.  If you are an active member your name should be on this list:

Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris ?, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS

Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an outcome or completion.

Recent Actions

 Here’s the latest on our cherished yet closed Eldorado trails, direct from Jeff Blewett, Cal4 Wheel’s Natural Resource Consultant for No. Calif.. Cal4 appears overly optimistic , while ENF has just published its own status.

  • Deer/Clover Valley- cal4: “late summer” ENF: “Fall 2016 or Summer 2016”
  • Pardoe’s/Squaw Ridge(‘Squaw’ renamed ‘Hungaleti Ridge Trail’)  Cal4: “by the FS it is open”; ENF “mitigation work starts Fall 2016 or Summer 2016.
  • Strawberry Ridge- Cal4: “Summer 2016”;  ENF “Summer 2017”
  • Barrett Lake- Cal4: “should be open late summer. Trail repairs and reroute will be finished this month by the HiLanders”; ENF: “work starts on Meadow 1 in July 2015; meadows 5 & 6 completed”

ENF’s overall route status is at : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=fsbdev7_019037 

Finally a June 2015 update on the 42 Routes initially closed is at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3843438.pdf

Many lessor-known routes are re-opened, but the best remain closed. Some of the route status in this update appear to be in conflict with Cal4’s assessments: 

There are apparently no “public” links from the ENF Home webpage to the 42 Route Project web page, but it’s at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=stelprdb5362046

Some of you are familiar with the Carnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore. It has been controversial from a “greenie/enviro” perspective. There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted and kept it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Right now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres, with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres.  There was a city council meeting in Livermore to take and advisory (non-binding) vote on wheather the city of Livermore supports  the Carnegie expansion or not. I sent my comments days earlier to the entire Livermore City coucil (however Livermore residents carry much more “sway”). Three voted against the expansion and only 2 voted in favor.  CORVA created an entire web page for the Carnagie/Tesla SVRA expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . BRC’s Don Amador has a blog  too:  http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2015/05/code-red-carnegie-action-alert-update.html . Dan A, Cal4 & CORVA also asked us also to contact the Alameda County Board of Supervisors to vote in favor of the expansion and the Draft Environmental Impact Statement contracted out by the Calif Dept of Park, OHV Divsion. I did. The county supervisors voted 100% against the DEIS and expansion of Carnegie SVRA on an advisory vote.  It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. In part these negative votes by Liver more & Alameda Couty, were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District, who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park.  EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos, whereas motorized parks are now only 900 acres, to be 3900 acres we hope. The SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and green/yellow sticker fees. 

Anti-Access Organizations sampler:

1. CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many remain closed to public access. 

2. CBD is one  of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat  interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf   and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html.  It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of  lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys:  http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242  and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/

3. Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/

Older Actions

 Moab: (for details  see previous Saving Our Trails) and https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/03/23/national-call-to-action-help-save-moabs-trails  & http://www.cal4wheel.com/access-issues/22-other-states-access-issues/610-moab-trails-need-your-letter-of-support

 Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details  see previous Saving Our Trails and go to Corva.org)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be  and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit 

  Deer Valley Route closures from Jan to July 31 due to Yosemite Toad (see previous Saving Our Trails and latest Eldorado 42 Routes closure news above) http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/541-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-on-deer-valley-trail  &  http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1909145-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-deer-valley-trail-yosemite-toad.html

 Oceano Dunes “air pollution” (for details  see previous Saving Our Trails)  and: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/central-california-access-issues/595-urgent-comments-needed-on-oceano-svra and  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Oceano-Dunes/141393079248971 .

 If you shop at Amazon.com, they have a charity giving program where they contribute a 0.5% of your purchase amounts to one of thousands of charities. But on their dime ! One of the qualifying charities is Blue Ribbon Coalition, as they are a 501(c)(3) organization. It costs you virtually zero $. So how do you sign up?

1) Sign-in to your Amazon account.

2) On another tab/window, Go to http://www.sharetrails.org/content/support-brc-while-shopping-online to read how it works. 

3) There, click on http://smile.amazon.com/, and you will see some info and a short list of various charities. To donate to BRC, enter “BlueRibbon Coalition” exactly as shown here, in the search box. The results should show “Blueribbon Coalition Inc” and “Categories: Natural Resource Conservation and Protection” and “Location: Pocatello, ID”. (careful–there are dozens of other ‘Blue Ribbon xxxx’ charities out there, be sure you have the right one.)

4) Click OK to sign-up, and BRC will receive 0.5% of your purchase amounts. To automatically donate, always shop at the “Smile” web address: at  https://smile.amazon.com/   (if you use Amazon’s normal web address, no donations are made). Your cost is zero and you can change charities or cancel anytime.

 There are dozens of other, mostly irrational public land closures in the works by the enviro-left/elitists, so we encourage everyone to check  Blue Ribbon CoalitionCal4wheelCorva.org, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news, and contact the land managers and/or government officials and tell them public land is for everyone.

 Paul E, Club Secretary

 

Oct 14, 2014 Meeting Agenda

Time & Location: Monthly, every 2nd Tuesday at 7 PM, in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922.

7:00 PM – Buffet Dinner: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks($10), or order direct from the menu. To help Antonella’s cover the cost of our meeting in the patio dining area, members are encouraged to have the buffet dinner or menu items.

7:30 PM – WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry:
Vice President – Brian:
Treasurer – Don:
Secretary – Paul:
Members Attending (1 point) –
Guests –
Participation points update –

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Brad has shown us the club business and they look great. Some comments were made. We agreed on the minor changes and we are ready to publish 1000 cards Thank you Brad for all the good work !

2) Other club news & ideas –

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS UNDERWAY

1) Brad – Axle issues….

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) September 13 – Deer Valley (the open section). Entered from Hwy 4 side, at Hermit Valley Campground. Attendees: Chris, Rahul, Paul, Alicia, Terry, Steve, Joe, Aaron (and others whom I forget). We had good time, no major mechanical issues. But for various reasons it was a somewhat unusual run. There are/were quite a few things happening on DV, regarding re-opening, the Forest Service evaluation, appellants & sheriff’s tour, anti’s on trail, weird signs, suggestion to write comments & trail work, status of adopters: South County Trail Riders, etc., we’ll talk about at the meeting.

2) October 4 – Slick Rock & Sourgrass planned but interest was very low. Did anyone run up there anyway?

UPCOMING RUNS (2 points for attending, +1 for overnight, +1 for Trail/Run Leader)

1) November 1 – Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail Run & maybe Slick Rock. Hwy 4 Protocol.

2) November 25-20 – Turkey Trot or similar So. Cal. desert run.

3) December – Toys-for-Tots run & Christmas dinner

4) Winter – CB Tune-Up and Swap Meet. Terry & Tom to determine best day. If you have 4×4 stuff to sell or a CB & antenna to fix or tune-up, this is a good time to do it.

Places we’ve not been for quite some time and not closed (i.e. Eldorado NF): Swamp Lake, Rubicon, Fordyce, Lassen Applegate, Moab, and our persistent favorite: Barney Riley!

8:30 PM – Meeting adjournment.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS new=bold (1 point for sending comments or similar action)
(or should it be: ‘Trials for Trails’…?)

Since it’s an election year, individual members may consider giving to TrailPAC, http://thetrailpac.blogspot.com & http://www.thetrailpac.com. Don Amador set up “TRAILPAC” a few years ago (PAC= Political Action Committee).. Don is ‘Lyin King’ on Pirate4X4-Land Use.

Corva is spearheading efforts along with Inland Empire 4Wheelers (IE4W), to fight actions to close trails & open areas within Ocotilo Wells SVRA. Though we do not visit Ocotillo Wells with any regularity (I did about 5 years ago), the implications may be far-reaching, possibly affecting access to Hollister Hills & Carnegie SVRAs, and even routes within other state parks (e.g. Anza-Borrego, Bodie Hills, etc). Donations can be made at: http://www.corva.org/donate , click the “IE4W Ocotillo Wells Challenge!” category. PayPal is accepted. More information can be found at Corva.org, and http://ie4w.com/.

Barrett Lake Jeep Trail: I do not know if work on the ground has started on Barrett yet. In any case, plans are to re-open it no sooner than summer 2015. See previous month’s minutes for details, and read ENF’s plans and comments at:http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3792621.pdf. & http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810733.pdfI think the next trail ENF may work on is Strawberry Pass. It should have received state OHV Trust funding to study it. No word on Deer Valley, Pardoe/Squaw Ridge, or Long Valley yet.

Check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Corva.org, Cal4wheel, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news.

Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

Paul E
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GETTIN’ OFF 4X4 Off-Road Club – Sept. 9 Meeting Minutes

2012-2013 Officers: President: Terry, VP: Brian B, Treasurer: Don, Secretary: Paul E.
Meeting Time & Location: Every 2nd Tuesday at 7, Antonella’s Ristorante (patio area), 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922.
Website http://www.gettinoff4x4.com

7:00 pm. Buffet Dinner: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks, or order direct from the menu. For Antonella’s to cover the cost of occupying the patio dining area, members are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner ($10) or menu items.

7:30 pm. Meeting Start

WELCOME and Board Reports

President – Terry: Terry noted he could not attend; Brian presided.
Vice President – Brian: Presided over Mtg.
Treasurer – Don: Reports ~$1.5K; Reports all active members are paid up. A few recent members have not paid dues or attended in the last year or 2. They are now inactive but are welcome to re-join.
Secretary – Paul: no reports
Members Attending (1 point) – Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris, Don, Eric, Gary, Lyle, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Tom K
Guests – Robert, Heidi & Eric, Steve (guests of Brad, Ron & ?)
Participation points – no reports

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS, & IDEAS

1) Brad & Joe will be teaming up to print our club business cards. Thank you guys! Cards should include:
1) Club Logo (scanned from the new club decal) 2) Our website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com 3) QR coding with our website (available on VistaPrint.com) perhaps on the back side of the card
4) Our location: “San Jose, CA” 5) Our statement or tag-line (abbreviated) : “A friendly & family oriented club, open to all 4WD vehicles” 6) It is suggested we have a note about public land access, to help inform other wheelers we meet. Example: “Keep your right to access. We support sharetrails.org, cal4wheel.com, corva.org” ; this could go on the back side of the card if necessary.

2) Terry & Alane were Married July 26, Congratulations from everyone ! A number of club members attended the wedding. It was a very nice ceremony & reception, with a little humor in the vows too !

3) We did discuss where to send donations to organizations who help keep public lands & roads open to the public. Last year we gave to CAL4, BRC & CORVA. This year we added Friends of Tahoe, as a one-time donation to support their expense in litigating against Tahoe National forest for unjustly closing up to 800 mile of routes. Info at http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1773161-need-help-tahoe-group-lawsuit.html#post26441793. About $1100 will be split among the four organizations.

Since it’s an election year, individual members may consider giving to TrailPAC, http://thetrailpac.blogspot.com & http://www.thetrailpac.com. Don Amador set up this TrailPac* few years ago. He is ‘Lyin King’ on Pirate4X4 – Land Use. (PAC= Political Action Committee)

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS UNDERWAY

1) Paul E – Cause of hum/vibration at 55-65 mph is not axle U-joint; but it needed replacement anyway. Could be tires, trans, etc; tbd.

(we did not get into other vehicle issues at this meeting)

RECENT RUNS & ‘Chances to Lock Axles’

1) August 15,16,17 (Fri, Sat, Sun) – Club BBQ Run: Niagara Rim. Arrive Friday or early Saturday morning; most camped Fri & Sat nights, at the OHV Campground: 38.310790, -119.890217. We ran Niagara Rim trail Saturday morning, had lunch on the trail, back to camp mid afternoon. We had a few incidents, needless to day, a few shown in the photos recently published: Paul E- locker on at off-camber spot; Steve – rollover onto passenger side; Tom K – rocker steps broken off (they have to come off sometime anyway); Brian – slipping down Heartbreak hill a few times.

We prepared a great BBQ dinner with Filet Mignon, Salmon, & Chicken (or bring meat of choice). After dinner we had the drawing for door prizes, resulting in quite a few “exchanges”. The wine bottles were exchanged to the maximum 3 times. Sunday morning we packed up for home. There were a few minor operational glitches, Brian & I discussed how to minimize them, and next year we will probably have an official sign-up sheet, which should help define how the event proceeds for everyone.

Run Requirements were: a) Bring an appetizer, side dish or dessert for about 8-10 people. Though more than 10 are attending, we always have leftovers so 8-10 is about right. Bring a few extra beverages to share.
b) Recommended minimum 33″ tires & one locker, c) Working CB radio d) Water, camping gear, food for breakfasts & lunches, tools, etc. e) $15 per adult (for BBQ Rib Eye steaks), $4 for campsite/night, & membership paid-up (excluding guests) f) Flying axes are not permitted in the campground area.

2) Mid-August – Your secretary talked about a family trip to Colorado, where (we) ran a few easy trails, high up in the Rockies near the towns of Montrose & Ouray. Vehicle Pain: We had the Neutral/Park Recall done on our grand cherokee at the Jeep dealer in February. But we found in August, the ‘fix’ prevented us from engaging 4LO ! ; “4WD Error(s)” galore. So we relied on 4HI-AWD, which works ok but we kept to easy trails. The dealer did fix it after the trip, after 2 attempts. Fortunately, no charge. This issue is all over the jeep forums.

UPCOMING RUNS (2 points)

September 13, THIS Saturday !! – Deer Valley (the open section). Entering from Hwy 4 side, at Hermit Valley Campground. Going are: Chris, Rahul, Paul, Alicia, Terry, Steve.
Hwy 4 Protocol:
Meet at 7:30 AM Grant line Road off I-205 in Tracy, at AM/PM Arco. and/or
meet at 9:15 AM Burger King parking lot in Angels Camp. and/or
meet at ~10:15 AM at the gas station near Arnold with the big parking lot (but better to meet In Tracy or Angels Camp) and/or
meet at noon??? Hermit Valley Campground.

October 3,4,5 CHANGE of VENUE ~Fri,Sat: Slick Rock & Sourgrass, or Rubicon(!) . (Mohave Rd. in reverse is on-hold)

Oct 14 – Next club meeting.

November 1 – Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail Run, Hwy 4 Protocol.

Other suggestions: Places we’ve not been for quite some time and not closed (as Eldorado NF): Swamp Lake, Rubicon, Fordyce, Lassen Applegate, Barney Riley, Moab, and our persistent favorite: Barney Riley.

Winter season – CB Tune-Up and Swap Meet. Terry & Tom to determine best day. If you have 4×4 stuff to sell or a CB & antenna to fix or tune-up, this is a good time to do it.

8:30 pm – Meeting adjournment.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS (new=bold)
or should it be: ‘Trials for Trails’…?

Barrett Lake Jeep Trail:
I do not know if work on the ground has started on Barrett yet. In any case, plans are to re-open it no sooner than summer 2015. See previous month’s minutes for details, and read ENF’s plans and comments at:http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3792621.pdf. & http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810733.pdfI think the next trail ENF may work on is Strawberry Pass. It should have received state OHV Trust funding to study it. No word on Deer Valley, Pardoe/Squaw Ridge, or Long Valley yet.

Check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Corva.org, Cal4wheel, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news.

[go4x4club] May 13 Meeting Minutes

2012-2013 Officers: President: Terry, VP: Brian B, Treasurer: Don, Secretary: Paul E.
Meeting Time & Location: Every 2nd Tuesday at 7, Antonella’s Ristorante (patio area), 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922.
Website http://www.gettinoff4x4.com

7:00 pm. Buffet Dinner $10. Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks, or order directly from the menu. To help Antonella’s cover the cost of using the patio area, members are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or a menu item.

7:30 pm. Meeting Start

This was an interesting meeting….rated PG-13, or something…

WELCOME and Board Reports

President – Terry: Terry noted he would be away, so Brian presided. Terry noted these business items, which Brian & members accomplished:

BOD elections. No additional nominations were made at the meeting, not a one. As the current board was nominated last month, they were also duly re-elected at the meeting by voice vote.
Two long-time guests are now eligible for membership: Tom K (TJ) and Marco A (4Runner). Each attended the adopt-a-trail for their 2nd trail run, and each has attended at least 3 meetings. Since Tom requested membership, he was subsequently voted-in by the current members. Congratulations Tom ! Marco was not present, hopefully we’ll see him next month.

Vice President – Brian: Brain did a fine job of presiding at the meeting. See notes throughout the minutes.

Treasurer – Don: Reports ~$570 in account.

Secretary – Paul: No special reports other than on a few items henceforth.

Members Attending (1 point): Aaron, Alicia, Brian, Chris, Don, Eric, Gary, Mario, Matt, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Roger, Ron.

Tim, our guy with a fleet of XJs, was in attendance. Great to see you, Tim ! He mentioned his red XJ made the cover of a new book called “Jeep Cherokee XJ 1984-2001: Advanced Performance Modifications” by Eric Zappe. Congrats on that one!

Guests – There were a few wives/girlfriends/family members in attendance.

Participation points: No announcement.

GENERAL NEWS, ACTIONS & IDEAS

a) We officially re-agreed(?) to ask Brad to print business cards for the club, next time he attends. Probably can print about 200 cards for less than $50; or perhaps Vista Print?. The vendor he chose has our new logo digital artwork. The card will have, at a minimum: 1) Our logo, 2) Our website 3) A digital ‘QR’ tag to reach our website (see http://www.qrstuff.com/ or similar), 4) Ppen to suggestions…one idea is to say we support fair & open access to public lands, and reference websites: Sharetrails.org, Cal4wheel.org, and/or Corva.org. We should also show we are ambassadors for public land access.

b) Annual Dues collected due at June meeting, $60 per member/family. New members purchase a T-shirt & Decals for $20.

c) Rumor was it was somehow telegraphed that our club member Gena was no longer invited to attend ! This is false. Though Gena was not present, the membership re-voted in favor of Gena’s still-valid full membership to the club. He is welcome back anytime, hope to see him soon.

d) Brian asked if there any other special business. Indeed there was, comments regarding the club’s name. Chris mentioned he would like the club to consider a name change sometime in the future. About 3 or 4 others had exactly the same thoughts, and your secretary too. Most others were silent (or perhaps aghast?) with the proposal.

It was noted that the club’s name goes way back into the ‘early days’, nearly 20 years (!) and that tradition is strong, so changing the club name will be hard, and that’s a reasonable assertion. The main reason cited to consider a name change was, it’s been “awkward” for some to tell friends, family and/or co-workers about the club and its full name. Of course, changing the club name kind-of obsoletes our investments in t-shirts, decals, jackets, by-laws, etc.

During the discussion, a few members presented the inevitable yet very un-official and un-sanctioned GO 4×4 Club ‘Salute’, if you will…(thank goodness it’s not a handshake!), thus somewhat proving the point of the potential awkwardness of the club’s name. This is worthy of future discussion and forethought, so perhaps we can discuss this at the BBQ run. Well maybe not, if there’s children around. OK, ’nuff said.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS

Don – The rig is at Tom’s & Gary’s for a full IFS rebuild. Lots of steering, suspension & driveline parts to be replaced, but way cheaper than a full new SAS (Solid Axle Swap). Should be ready for next run to Slick Rock.
Mario – Sold his Ford Super-Duty also ! What’s with selling all the Super Dutys recently?? answer: not being used enough…
Someone (Eric?) – Got a new driveshaft at Southbay Driveline for $600 and a new battery. I wrote down it was Eric but somehow that seems incorrect; who was it again?
Aaron – Just acquired a “new” 1974 Ford Bronco ! He’s either going to build it up for himself, or fix it up and flip it. He got it for a great price, it will need work to make it street & trail worthy. Other good new is he found a substantial leak in the exhaust header of the CJ, which was, in part at least, causing smog to fail. So smog passed now, by a hair. Toyota : clutch issue, fixed?

RECENT RUNS & ‘Chances to Lock Axles’

April 26 – Adopt-A-Trail – Sourgrass, Hwy 4. Terry reports the adopt-a-trail run went well. They spent most of the time digging trenches to get water off the trail. 5 rigs attended: Ron, Eric, Tom K., Marco, and Terry & Alane. Weather was cool in the mid 40’s, otherwise a nice day. There was up to 3-4″ of fresh snow on parts of the trail. All had a good time. Ron reported on the run too: He noted they cleared several puddles, and the creek crossing was fairly low.

Tom K mentioned he took his Grand Cherokee on some fire roads recently to explore around. (I forget to note where it was you went, sorry).

Alicia noted that Joe had gone to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari. Near the end of the week, officials said they were short a Run Leader, so Joe volunteered to fill that vacancy. What trail..? tbd.

UPCOMING RUNS (2 points)

May 31 – Slick Rock, then perhaps the 1st few miles of Deer Valley, from Hwy 4 side. Brain polled who would be going and 8+ members raised their hands*. There are a few options for those going:
1) Run Slick Rock on Saturday, and if there’s time, the back-side of Coral Hollow, and return home the same day,
2) Run Slick Rock Saturday, then head east on Hwy 4 to trailhead & campground at the start of Deer Valley route. Stay overnight, camping, then run the 1st few miles of Deer Valley Sunday am, in & out, and return home Sunday afternoon. Though Eldorado National Forest website says 19E01 (old:09N83) Deer Valley/Clover Valley is still “Closed behind County gate”, it was said the south part of the route is actually open.

June 21-22 Niagara (“Aragain”) Rim pre-run, Hwy 108.

July 12 Hollister (too hot in summer?) or TBD.

August 15,16,17 – Club BBQ Run: Aragain Rim, up .

CB Tune-Up and Swap Meet – Terry & Tom to determine best day. If you have 4×4 stuff to sell or a CB & antenna to fix or tune-up, this is a good time.

Other run suggestions: places we’ve not been for a long time, and not closed (as is Eldorado NF): Swamp Lake, Rubicon, Fordyce, Lassen Applegate, Barney Riley, Moab.

Barney Riley was discussed among a few members, but was noted the hot springs are not accessible from Barney Riley trail anymore – we can’t drive across the river any more (what a bunch of spoil sports!). Though you can access the hot springs from routes on the northwest side of the Carson river.

8:30 pm – Meeting adjournment.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS (new=bold)

Barrett Lake Jeep Trail:
After the lawsuit from PEER last year, and the subsequent truce between litigants, Eldorado National Forest (ENF) has put together a plan make the required changes to the trail. Work should begin this July. The trail could be ready by 2015. It appears it will take many 100’s of thousands of federal & OHV trust fund dollars to make the trail changes. It is amazing all the behind-the-scenes work & expense required to re-open these trails to the public: large additional reports & plans written by ENF for environmental compliance, volunteers, pro-access groups & the county of Eldorado, etc, and of course the actual ground work by contractors. Even the recent plans made are under attack by the only opposition, PEER, who is already complaining to ENF about their remediation plans…unbelievable! It really makes true the motto ‘Freedom Isn’t Free’. To help understand this, read ENF’s plans and comments at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3792621.pdf

I think the next trail ENF will work on is Strawberry Pass, they applied and should receive state OHV Trust funding to study it. No word on Deer Valley or Pardoe/Squaw Ridge yet.

Clear Creek (old Cal 4 “Molina Ghost Run” locations)
See: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/central-california-access-issues/508-subcommittee-to-hold-hearings-on-clear-creek-bill

Glamis:
Some good news for Imperial Sand Dunes in So Cal (a.k.a. ‘Glamis’). A generally positive court ruling for potential renewed OHV access to this long restricted area. See BRC article: http://www.sharetrails.org/news/2014/04/04/epic-decision-portends-new-balance-re-opening-dunes-glamis In possible retribution(?), PEER/CBD a day later, apparently notified BLM of their intent to sue them on grounds of inadequate record-keeping of ESA animal populations there.

Utah:
Just a few days ago: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/10/blm-protest-targets-off-limits-atv-trail-on-public-land-in-utah/

Check BRC (sharetrails.org), Corva.org (‘News’), and Cal4wheel, Pirate4x4 websites for more access news.

(*no, not with the un-sanctioned club salute, thank goodness)

April 8 Meeting Notes

GETTIN’ OFF 4X4 Off-Road Club – April 8 Meeting Minutes

2012-2013 Officers: President: Terry, VP: Brian B, Treasurer: Don, Secretary: Paul E.
Meeting Time & Location: Every 2nd Tuesday at 7, Antonella’s Ristorante (patio area), 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922.
Website http://www.gettinoff4x4.com

7:00 pm. Buffet Dinner $10. Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks, or order directly from the menu. To help Antonella’s cover the cost of using their patio area, members are encouraged to enjoy the dinner.

7:30 pm. Meeting Start

WELCOME and Board Reports

President – Terry: Welcomed Guests & Members; membership explained ( 2 runs, 3 meetings, then members vote; $60 per yr).
Vice President – Brian:
Treasurer – Don: $560 in account.
Secretary – Paul: noted “No Man’s Land” TV show on History Chnl, part of show is finding relics near Darwin, CA. Google search of “4×4 clubs San Jose, CA”: Gettin’ Off is in top 5.
Members Attending (1 point): Aaron, Brad, Brian, Chris, Don, Eric, Gary, Lyle, Mario, Matt, Paul E, Paul H, Randy, Roger, Ron, Terry
Guests – Marco,Tom, Mike
Participation points: Lyle in lead so far.

GENERAL NEWS, ACTIONS & IDEAS

a) Brad has a quote for promo cards to handout on the trail or anytime. 500 cards ~$50; 1000 for ~$75 (?). The vendor has our quality digital artwork & newest logo. The card will have our logo and website, ideas welcome.
b) Annual Board Elections coming. Nominations were held, and can be made up to election time. Election is held at the May meeting. The current board were nominated & seconded.
If you are interested in a board position chime in and/or ask some to nominate you. The Board serves for one year. A copy of the club’s by-laws is attached, and can be be viewed at the club website.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS
Terry – 4-Runner passed the Smog test.
Paul H – 94 YJ not passing smog. May part it out (!)
Brad – Jeep is back and running.
Randy – Acquired a new YJ, ready to roll.
Don – Contemplating SAS (Solid Axle Swap) on 4Runner. Quotes range from ~$6K to ~$8K, depending work completed, new/old parts, etc. Club members encouraged Don to send out a list of parts needed, and club members could recommend best suppliers. To save on labor costs, members also suggested a time (a Saturday morning at Calabazas RV?) in which the axle could be installed by the club. Aaron & Paul H have professional welding skills. Perhaps this could be combined with the CB tune-up & Swap Meet.

RECENT RUNS & ‘Chances to Lock Axles’

March 14,15,16. Panamint Valley & Calico Mountains. Friday, Saturday & Sunday. Matt, Lauren and his friends Dave & Tony, and I met met in Ridgecrest to run trails in Calico Mountains & Panamint. It went very well, a trip report was submitted March 28. Photos: http://4door4x4.smugmug.com/Off-Road-Trips-1/Calico-and-Panamint-March-2014/38109443_ntbPfH . Click “Map This” for locations.

March 22 – Snow Run ! Terry & Tom (‘new’ Tom) met up near Georgetown & ran up to Wentworth Springs toward Ice House Rd. Just light drifts of bit snow encountered on the way up. Rained off & on. They drove across the dam at Loon Lake to try the Rubicon for a bit, up to the former gate-keeper spot. The rock was wet & slippery, another rig with 38s had traction issues too. Other trails in area were on winter season closure. (these should open up end of April)

March – Eric & friends went to Shoshone Hot Springs, east of Death Valley to Gunsight Mine, and Armagosa River narrows, along old train tracks. Eric noted the pick and shovel labor to build these earth structures for the railroad was incredible for that time.

UPCOMING RUNS (2 points)

April 26 – Adopt-A-Trail – Sourgrass, Hwy 4. Meet at ARCO in Tracy (Grant line Road exit, head southeast, on left) at 7:30am, and/or, Burger King in Angels Camp at 9:15am, and/or Sourgrass parking area at 10:45am. Bring: shovel, pruning loppers, gloves, garbage bags, chain saw, lunch. Looks like we’ll have a good crew of 8 or more rigs going !

May 31 – Slick Rock, then perhaps the 1st few miles of Deer Valley, from Hwy 4 side. Alternate could be eastern side of Corral Hollow if Deer Vly not accessible..
June –
July –
August 15,16,17 – Club BBQ Run: Aragain Rim, up Hwy 108.

CB Tune-Up and Swap Meet – Terry & Tom to determine best day. If you have 4×4 stuff to sell or a CB & antenna to fix or tune-up, this is a good time.

Other run suggestions: places we’ve not been for a long time, and not closed (as is Eldorado NF): Swamp Lake, Rubicon, Fordyce, Lassen Applegate, Barney Riley, Moab.

8:40 pm – Meeting adjourned.

SAVING OUR TRAILS

Barrett Lake Jeep Trail:

1) After the lawsuit from PEER last year, and the subsequent truce between litigants, Eldorado National Forest (ENF) has put together a plan make the required changes to the trail. Work should begin this July. The trail could be ready by 2015. It appears it will take many 100’s of thousands of federal & OHV trust fund dollars to make the trail changes. It is amazing all the behind-the-scenes work & expense required to re-open these trails to the public: large additional reports & plans written by ENF for environmental compliance, volunteers, pro-access groups & the county of Eldorado, etc, and of course the actual ground work by contractors. Even the recent plans made are under attack by the only opposition, PEER, who is already complaining to ENF about their remediation plans…unbelievable! It really makes true the motto ‘Freedom Isn’t Free’. To help understand this, read ENF’s plans and comments at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3792621.pdf

I think the next trail ENF will work on is Strawberry Pass, they applied and should receive state OHV Trust funding to study it. No word on Deer Valley or Pardoes/Squaw Ridge yet.

Glamis:

2) Some good news for Imperial Sand Dunes in So Cal (a.k.a. ‘Glamis’). A generally positive court ruling for potential renewed OHV access to this long restricted area. See BRC article: http://www.sharetrails.org/news/2014/04/04/epic-decision-portends-new-balance-re-opening-dunes-glamis In possible retribution(?), PEER/CBD a day later, apparently notfied BLM of their intent to sue them on grounds of inadequate record-keeping of ESA animal populations there.

Check BRC (sharetrails.org) and Corva.org(‘News’) websites for more access news.

Paul E