GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – March 8 Meeting Minutes

Website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com . We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant. Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks ($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu to help Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area.

7:30 PM – Meeting start

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed all members & guests. Each attending introduced themselves, their vehicle & mods, years in the club, city of residence, occupation, etc. Very nice.
Vice President – Brian: Unable to attend. To bring club Patches/Stickers next meeting for new members.
Treasurer – Don: Brought T-shirts for new members.
Secretary – Paul: Some updates in the “Saving Our Trails” section below.
Members Attending – Aaron, Alicia, Don, Eric, Gary, Grant, Joe, Jon, Lyle, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Randy, Roger, Ron, Terry
Brand New Members this month –
Guests Attending – Josh, Stan, Kiran L., Brian M.

NEWS, ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Stanislaus Nat’l Forest to have ranger to speak with all Adopt-A-Trail clubs. Terry said the FS will meet with our club at a nearby FS office or at the trailhead. Our trail is in the Sourgrass Recreation Area (aka “Rattlesnake Creek Road” route, 5N02R.
2) We are updating the the members list. If you joined in the the last year or two, or need to update old data, Don our treasurer says: “Gang…the Board is working to create an updated listing of members’ phone numbers, cities of residence, and of course being sure your current email address is, uh, current. Feel free to email me the pertinent data (you may use my personal email of merman1983@hotmail.com, and I will update our records. Your info remains in strictest confidence; only the King of Nigeria shares my data….”
3) Terry also announced that Board Nominations are coming in April and elections in May. You may nominate yourself, and it may require a 2nd (I think). Great way to ‘step up to the plate’ and contribute to the club’s success.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS, STUFF FOR SALE

1) Paul E. – Crankcase breather (PCV) to intake blocked – probably been blocked for years. Rubicon Express Track bar needs maintenance again, this design is too finicky. The good news is after some significant web searching, found all the replacement parts for this stuff.
2) Roger: Electrical gremlins, battery draining & eventually ruined. (Roger, I have the same problem; contact Paul E.)
3) Joe: After too many months of fault codes, intake/vaccuum/valve/who knows? issues….Joe has decided to build a 4.6 L Stroker engine. This is a pretty big deal, both in time & $$. He said it is hard find complete, technical & accurate info on this rebuild project, but at least it has been done many times before in the jeeping community.
4) Aaron – Bronco nearly complete. Pinion gear issue.
5) Grant – New diff gearing installed by Gear Masters (local shop). but may need to change again (?).
6) John – After wheeling in in Panamint, steering became sloppy and found the.sway bar came loose & control arms bolts fell out. Whoa!….To everyone: check those bolts!
7) For Sale – 2007 Infiniti Sedan, 3.5L V6, auto, white, 109K miles, contact Paul E.

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) February 12,13,14,15 – Overnight run to Panamint Valley and explore trails & mines. Arrive Thurs night and leave Monday, or set your own arrive/depart schedule. Trails were to include Defense Mine, Goler Wash on Saturday & Sunday. Camped at Area 53 along Slate Range Road off of Nadeau Rd at N 36°07.552′ W 117°19.250′. Matt stayed in Ridgecrest. A few camped near or at Area 53 or Area 52. If tenting, bring very long tent stakes due to high afternoon winds. Looks like about 4 rigs attended. But Don got to see Minietta Cabin & Mine near area 52, and hang out with some ‘weapons experts’ from Huntington Beach for the afternoon. Don reports Goler Wash is a ‘freeway’ now (due to wildflower viewers, or ?). Matt reported he visited World Beater Mine, Pleasant Canyon and over Roger’s Pass. He camped at area 53 & motelled. Also met Rocky at Ballerrat. Jon – something about target practice, and lots of mules & donkeys

Apparently there were few missed connections on this run. Noted at the meeting was that all club runs must call out, at least several hours (if not several days) in advance: 1) trails expected to run for each day, and 2) driver’s meet up time for each run. Even if the planned trail is found to be closed or the daily itinerary needs to change, at least drivers know where & when to meet in the morning.

2) Feb 20 – Hollister Hills – A few brave folks went anyway, after some rain & expected muddy conditions: Michael, Jon went to Upper Ranch, ran Fremontia Rd, and others, but said the mud was not too bad actually. Glad to hear it went well !

UPCOMING RUNS

1) March 12 – Snow Run II – Just when I (Terry) was about to call off the upcoming snow run due to a lack of snow, we are saved with a series of storms coming through the area. The meeting place is the same as in Jan, 9:30 a.m. in Placerville. Exit # 44B to Forney Road, Meet at the ARCO station. And all are invited to spend Sat night in Tahoe if you wish. So far we have Terry, Alberto, Eric, Jon, Stan, Alberto, and a few others possibly. Look for email updates.

2) April 23 – Hollister Hills II – 2nd chance for those who didn’t make it last time.

3) April 19 to 24 – MOAB! Grant is heading to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari with some folks from Currie Enterprises. All are welcome join in. Details to follow. Via US 50 in Nevada.

4) May 14 – Adopt-A-Trail. This time one of the Stanislaus rangers wants to meet the club (I won’t miss this, ed.). Hwy 4 protocol: Meet at Arco in Tracy off of Grant Line Road at 7:30am, Angels Camp Burger King at 9:30am, or the Sourgrass trailhead about 11am.

5) May 27-30 Cal 4 Wheel Hi Desert Round-Up; SLASH X Resort, South of Barstow. Runs & signup: http://cal4wheel.com/hi-desert-run-descriptions

8:15 PM – Meeting adjourns

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in. If you are an active member your name should be on this list:
Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris S, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

Campfire Permits are available at http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ for fires at developed & undeveloped camping spots. You must also check with the current local forest rules-in-force also.

Paul
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SAVING OUR TRAILS
Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an official decision or completion.

1) Even though Eldorado NF promised to repair and re-open these routes to the public, these SNC people never give up (or like to carry a big “chip on their shoulder”) http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/action-alert-meadows-in-jeopardy-again/. Anyway, keep writing Eldorado NF in support of these trails:

1) 17E24 “Carson Emigrant Trail”
2) 16E26 “Hungaleti Ridge Trail”
3) 17E28 “Long Valley Trail”
4) 16E27 (10N21) “Long Canyon 4WD Trail”
5) 19E01 (09N83) “Clover Valley/Deer Valley Trail”
6) 17E73 (10N13) “Strawberry 4WD Trail”
7) 09N01 “Blue Lakes/Meadow Lake Road”
(among several others, see http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd492205.pdf)

Send an email to coswald@fs.fed.us to (nicely) tell them you want these long established forest routes re-opened to the public sometime this year. Or snail mail: Cindy Oswald, Eldorado National Forest, 100 Forni Road, Placerville, CA 95667.

2) Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details see previous editions of “Saving Our Trails” and go to Corva.org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit Court hearing in San Francisco this week Feb 8-12 ! Maybe Pirate4x4 will have latest info (?)

4) Tahoe Nat’l Forest Lawsuit – Groups of OHVer’s sued Tahoe Nat’l Forest for not considering or evaluating 90% of user created routes (about 800 miles) for consideration into the official designated route system. Tahoe Nat’l Forest declined to include all but about 100 miles. The judges ruled in favor of the Tahoe Nat’l Forest. This was a big blow to the OHV community. More info at http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1773161-need-help-tahoe-group-lawsuit-3.html

5) California Desert: OBAMA & FEINSTEIN have indeed FULFILLED their THREAT and Made UNILATERAL EXECUTIVE PROCLAMATIONS and created new NATIONAL MONUMENTS. This could close several OHV routes. Info:
CORVA: http://www.corva.org
CAL4: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/southern-california-access-issues/647-feinstein-to-host-public-meeting-on-proposed-desert-monument-designations
Action Link: http://cqrcengage.com/cal4wheel/app/onestep-write-a-letter?11&engagementId=136354
BRC:(BRC is using ARRA’s action alert page for this) https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/10/08/urgent-letters-needed-oppose-going-forward-designation

6) Lake Tahoe Basin OHV. There are lots of OHV trails around and overlooking Lake Tahoe. The Forest Service is looking for public comments on future projects and management for the LTBMU, forested areas. You secretary has traveled many Lake Tahoe OHV trails with family, friends and the club. There are some real gems out there, with great views of the Lake, etc., besides the Rubicon.
Best to send comments before Jan 22, but later comments are just fine too. Check:
http://www.cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/675-input-on-eldorado-due-january-22 , and
http://www.corva.org/news/3746425 , and https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2016/01/05/california-send-comment-letters-fs-improving-ohv-recreation-ltbmu

7) Jeb Bush – bowed out. Was potentially the best presidential candidate for public lands recreation & access — Only one who has formally stated any favorable federal public land & recreation policy at:
https://jeb2016.com/western-land-resource-management/?lang=en If you know any other remaining candidates with a similar public lands statements, let us know.

8) Carnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore: Calif Dept of Parks, OHV Division, was to Vote Feb 5 on expanding Carnegie, but delayed the vote, for some unpublished reason. I take this as a “political capital” move, and they will probably vote NOT to expand the park, to save what little political capital they have left for a future park somewhere else, with less community opposition, such as So. Cal. or possibly far northern Calif. Carnegie is too close to the “politically correct ” Bay Area, unfortunately. Hope I’m wrong.
There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted to keep it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres. CORVA created an entire web page for the expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. Negative votes by Livermore & Alameda County were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park. EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Counties, while Carnegie is the only motorized park in thse counties, at only 900 acres; (hopefully to be ~3900 acres). The Calif State Parks SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and from green sticker fees.

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Know your Anti-Access Organizations – a sampler:
CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many of the best still remain closed to public access until only small sections are repaired.
CBD is one of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html. It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease ! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys: http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242
PEER (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/
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GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Jan 12 Meeting Minutes

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Jan 12 Meeting Minutes

Website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com . We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant. Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks ($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu to help Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area.

7:30 PM – Meeting start

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed several new & returning guests & explained annual dues $60 ($15 to club, $45 to trial access orgs).
Vice President – Brian: no special news
Treasurer – Don: no special news
Secretary – Paul: Noted that comments from the public are needed to help guide Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit on recreation in the National Forest lands there, to keep you favorite motorized trial open to public use (See ‘Saving Our Trails’ below).
Members Attending – Brian, Chris S, Don, Eric, Gary,Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Randy, Roger, Ron, Terry, Tom K.
Brand New Members this month –
Guests Attending – Mark (FJ), Grant (TJ), Stan, Erik & Heidi — Welcome all!

NEWS, ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Ongoing: A few of our Yahoo Groups recipients may not be getting club emails, so perhaps check your spam folders. It was announced to contact or see Eric at the meeting if this is the case.
2) Fire Permits are available at http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ for fires at developed & undeveloped camping spots. You must also check with the current local forest rules-in-force also.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS, STUFF FOR SALE

1) Joe: Fixed engine check light but needs new head due to bad valves. (wow, on a relatively new LJ?)
2) Chris S swapped in D60 & Sterling axles, preparing for 40″ tires. Has Rubicon axles for sale now. So he’s now ready for Fordyce, The Hammers or just about anything.
3) Eric has a set of 5 tires for sale, in good cond.
4) Brain: clutch parts broken, hard to order these things individually,etc.
5) Grant: Bought a new Warn “Zeon” winch.
6) Terry: TJ back from shop, works great.

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

none reported.

UPCOMING RUNS

1) January 23 – Snow Run to Wentworth Springs Road (meet-up in Georgetown). Participants are invited to stay over Saturday night at Terry & Alane’s cabin in south Tahoe after the run. Look like we have about 12 rigs participating! – will be fun ! See email from Terry, just a few days ago.

2) Jan 31-Feb 5th King of the Hammers Race – Not a club run or destination this year, but noted for those interested. Watch full-on professional rock-crawling action in super race-built rigs, and wheel those some of the same trails with your rig on non-race days. There are extreme trails, but many others are not. (note: BLM has created some special rules for this year’s Hammers race)

3) February 12,13,14,15 – Join Randy & Lyle for overnight runs to Panamint Valley and explore trails & mines. Includes Defense Mine, Goler Wash and others. Camp at Area 53 along Slate Range Road off of Nadeau Rd at N 36°07.552′ W 117°19.250′ , or stay in the luxurious town of Ridgecrest (hey, it’s fine, actually) at one of many motels. Runs will be on Friday, Saturday & Sunday. Arrive Thurs night and leave Monday or set your own arrive/leave schedule. More info from Randy or Lyle coming. Trivia: Mining rights to Defense Mine are have or are being sold for ~$5K – this may be interesting.

4) Feb 20 (or was it the 27th? or March?)- Hollister Hills – ~~clarification requested~~. During dry weather only.

5) March – tbd.

~8:15 PM – Meeting adjourned.

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in. If you are an active member your name should be on this list:
Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris S, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

Paul

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SAVING OUR TRAILS
Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an official decision or completion.

1) Lake Tahoe Basin OHV. There are lots of OHV trails around and overlooking Lake Tahoe. The Forest Service is looking for public comments on future projects and management for the LTBMU, forested areas. You secretary has traveled many Lake Tahoe OHV trails with family, friends and the club. There are some real gems out there, with great views of the Lake, etc., besides the Rubicon.
To send comments before Jan 22. Check out:
http://www.cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/675-input-on-eldorado-due-january-22 , and
http://www.corva.org/news/3746425 , and
https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2016/01/05/california-send-comment-letters-fs-improving-ohv-recreation-ltbmu

2) There are several other urgent California issues bubbling up, that need public comments too; check out BRC & CORVA:
https://www.sharetrails.org/ (scroll down), and
http://www.corva.org/news

3) Popular Eldorado Trails still closed by the 42 Routes lawsuit (!!)
Deer/Clover Valley- expected to open Summer 2016
Pardoe’s/Squaw Ridge (‘Squaw’ renamed ‘Hungaleti Ridge Trail’) mitigation work starts Summer 2016.
Strawberry Ridge- expected to open Summer 2017
ENF’s overall route status is at : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=fsbdev7_019037 . & http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=stelprdb5362046
A June 2015 update on the 42 Routes initially closed is at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3843438.pdf.

Many lessor-known routes are re-opened, but the best ones remain closed. Some of the route status in this update appear to be in conflict with Cal4’s Fall 2015 assessments. Deer Valley Route closures are now from Jan to July 31 due to Yosemite Toad (see previous Saving Our Trails and latest Eldorado 42 Routes closure news above) http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/541-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-on-deer-valley-trail & http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1909145-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-deer-valley-trail-yosemite-toad.html

4) Potentially best president for public lands access: Jeb Bush. He is the only one who has formally stated any favorable federal-public land & recreation policy:
https://jeb2016.com/western-land-resource-management/?lang=en If you know of any others prez candidates with a similar public lands statement, let us know.

5) California Desert:
This is an important opportunity to contact the president & legislators about preserving multiple-use public access to areas in the California desert. CORVA, Cal4, BRC, and ARRA have sent out action alerts on this. Each has a slightly different take on the issue :

CORVA Background info & links: http://www.corva.org/email
CAL4 Background info: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/southern-california-access-issues/647-feinstein-to-host-public-meeting-on-proposed-desert-monument-designations
Action Link: http://cqrcengage.com/cal4wheel/app/onestep-write-a-letter?11&engagementId=136354
BRC- (BRC is using ARRA’s action alert page for this) Background info & link:
https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/10/08/urgent-letters-needed-oppose-going-forward-designation

You can create a brief or extended comment using the CORVA links, and/or read the talking points from the Cal4 & BRC/ARRA links which have other detailed information. Keep comments respectful & professional. I took the suggested text from Cal4 & BRC/ARRA, re-wrote the text in my own words, and sent comments using CORVA’s links. CORVA’s links are generic, direct to Pres. Obama, Sen. Mukowski, etc, whereas Cal4/ARRA copy & forward your text & basic personal info to the president & legislators. I also copied Dept. of Interior.
Older Actions still in process

6) Carnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore: UPDATE COMING; otherwise check CORVA.ORG
There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted to keep it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres. CORVA created an entire web page for the expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. In part these negative votes by Livermore & Alameda County were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District, who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park. EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos, while Carnegie is the only motorized park in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos and is only 900 acres; (hopefully to be ~3900 acres). The SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and green sticker fees.

7) Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details see previous editions of “Saving Our Trails” and go to Corva.org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit

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Know your Anti-Access Organizations – a sampler:
CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many of the best still remain closed to public access until only small sections are repaired.
CBD is one of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html. It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease ! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys: http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242 and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/
PEER (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/
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There are dozens of other, mostly irrational public land & road closures in the works by the enviro-left/elite, so we encourage everyone to check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Cal4wheel, Corva.org, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news. Contact land managers and government officials and tell them public land is for everyone. The info above can help with the ‘why, who & how’ to contact.

Paul E

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Sept 8 2015 Meeting Minutes

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Sept 8 2015 Meeting Minutes

Website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com . We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant. Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu to help Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area.

7:30 PM – Meeting starts NOTE: the actual meeting start is 7:30 PM (not 8PM from the yahoo groups automatic reminder email).

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed guests, spoke about recent & upcoming runs, held donations election.
Vice President – Brian: (away)
Treasurer – Don: brought T-Shirts ! (new members get a shirt & decal included with initial membership). 27 paid members.
Secretary – Paul: Spoke about the goals Cal4Wheel, CORVA, BRC and why we should support them.
Members Attending – Aaron, Chris W, Chris S(?), Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Jon, Lyle, Marco, Paul E, Paul H, Randy, Roger, Ron, Terry, Tom K.
Brand New Members this month –
Guests Attending – Alberto (JK) has attended a few runs & meetings. Liz & Mike (CJ-5), Josh (GM fullsize). Welcome returning & new guests!
(If I missed anyone who attended please let me know.)

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Some of our Yahoogroups recipients are not getting emails from the server (Chris W. (all) & Terry (not receiving Agenda/Minutes); CHECK Your Spam Folders !!
2) Yahoo’s auto-emails need to change our meeting start time from 8 PM to 7:30 PM (7PM dinner).
3) Fire Permits, when allowed, are needed for any fire or stove used outside of improved campgrounds in National Forest or BLM areas. Suggest http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ .
4) Like last year, we elected to make our annual donations to CORVA, CAL4, and BRC. Paul spoke briefly about each group. Our funds will be mostly targeted to the groups’ legal accounts related to keeping Sierra trails open.

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS, STUFF FOR SALE

1) Chris: Steering wheel alignment “slipping”; changed Pittman arm. Could also be steering box.
2) Aaron: Front section of Jeep all welded-up & repaired.
3) Paul: 15Amp running lights & dashboard circuit blows when headlight switch activated – headlights always ok. Happens 1 of every ~50 attempts! Replaced headlight switch – little or no effect. Went through the related wire harness and lamp sockets I could get to, nothing found. Well known on internet; but only solution is “replace fuse”. Doh!

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) August 14,15,16 BBQ Run: Bear Valley Loop Trail. A few arrived Thursday to reserve campsites, and by Friday evening nearly everyone had arrived. That evening most of the group drove up Sardine Peak for a gorgeous view and to appreciate the fantastic restoration of the Sardine Peak Fire Lookout. It can be rented this year for free from Tahoe Nat’l Forest. On Sat morning we ran most but not the last few miles the 20-mile Bear Valley Loop trail, avoiding most of the manzanita, but ended up with little brush rash anyway. It’s a moderately difficult route overall, with a few bypasses at the steep spots. The 2nd winch hill caught a few rigs who needed the winch, mostly for traction but also to keep rigs on all fours. Other than the few winch-ups, a tricky rock garden or two, & Matt’s steering box leak (later fixed) the run went without a hitch. A young deer running nearly slammed into my front fender, as I only crawling along up a hill.

The BBQ went very well with plenty of great food. Deep fried twinkies were a favorite. For the Door prizes, the folding chair & slingshot were traded the most. A big thanks to every one for helping at the BBQ set up, cooking & clean up. Tim (Paul H’s buddy) and I were the last to leave the campground, and one of the bow-hunters camped nearby had to ‘shake our hands’ for cleaning the campsites so well. So kudos to everyone!

On Sunday we had a bonus run to Snake Lake. Tim & I ran just part of the trail, since it took some time to get to the trailhead using the Gold Lake lakeshore route on the south side. Yes it is a PITA because there are several stock pickups tip-toeing over the rocks & boulders trying to get back to the highway. It’s a beautiful place to camp along the Gold Lake shore. We saw great views along the way up to Snake Lake. We arrived at Snake Lake Loop at 12:30 pm and made it to Little Deer Lake about 1 hour later, about 1/4 of total the loop. Other than winch hill 2 at Bear Valley Loop, Snake Lake trail is rougher, with more steep climbs and rock-crawling. At 2 PM we headed back, and located the short cut route back to the Gold Lake highway, that (other Tim?) from Diablo Valley 4-Wheelers described. It’s much faster but has several turns. We got home about 8.

Photos of the 2 runs, with a descriptions of how to access Snake Lake is here: https://4door4x4.smugmug.com/Off-Road-Trips-1/Bear-Valley-Loop-BBQ-Snake/n-TBWq7z
(hint: use Sardine Road, a left turn off of Gold Lake Highway, about 1 mile before Gold Lake. Avoid the bumpy route via the OHV campground on weekends).

UPCOMING RUNS

1) Sept 12 -13 – Deer Valley & Twin Peaks trails. We’ll run the Twin Peaks route near Sawmill Pond , and parts of the Tahoe side of the Rubicon on Saturday. You can stay Friday & Saturday nights at Terry’s new place in South Tahoe off Hwy 89. 33″+ tires & 1 locker recommended. Arrive at Terry’s Friday evening or early Sat morning. Most are arriving Friday eve. Contact Terry for directions if you did not raise your hand Tuesday.

2) NEW DATES: Sept 18-19 – Run the Rubicon with Chris W. Contact Chris directly; and perhaps cc: yahoo club email too: go4x4club@yahoogroups.com.

3) Sept 26-27 – Barrett Lake Trail is open! See http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/news-events/?cid=STELPRD3847114. This will be an overnight run. Camp at Wrights Lake Friday night, On Saturday run Barrett Lake one way and camp there Sat night. Run the trail back out Sunday morning. There are other options that are possible. This run needs a trail boss & final plan. 33s & rear locker minimum.

3) October 17 or 24 – Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail run. Hwy 4 Protocol (per the Adopt-A-Trail run) .

4) November 25-29 – Death Valley / Panamint or somewhere else in the desert run (Calico Hills & area?).

5) December – Toys for Tots & Christmas dinner.

***Summer season: It is possible certain National Forests may “close” OHV mid-to-late summer due to fire hazard***.

8:30 PM – Meeting adjourned.

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in. If you are an active member your name should be on this list:
Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris ?, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS
Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an outcome or completion.

Recent Actions

*:-w waiting Here’s the latest on our cherished yet closed Eldorado trails, direct from Jeff Blewett, Cal4 Wheel’s Natural Resource Consultant for No. Calif.. Cal4 appears overly optimistic , while ENF has just published its own status.
Deer/Clover Valley- Cal4: “late summer” ENF: “Fall 2016 or Summer 2016”
Pardoe’s/Squaw Ridge(‘Squaw’ renamed ‘Hungaleti Ridge Trail’) Cal4: “by the FS it is open”; ENF “mitigation work starts Fall 2016 or Summer 2016.
Strawberry Ridge- Cal4: “Summer 2016”; ENF “Summer 2017”
*:D big grin Barrett Lake- Cal4: OPEN !! – Finally…See http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/news-events/?cid=STELPRD3847114
ENF’s overall route status is at : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=fsbdev7_019037
Finally a June 2015 update on the 42 Routes initially closed is at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3843438.pdf
Many lessor-known routes are re-opened, but the best remain closed. Some of the route status in this update appear to be in conflict with Cal4’s assessments:
There are apparently no “public” links from the ENF Home webpage to the 42 Route Project web page, but it’s at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=stelprdb5362046

*:-h waveCarnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore. It has been controversial from a “greenie/enviro” perspective. There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted to keep it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres. A city council meeting in Livermore held an advisory (non-binding) vote on wheather the city will support the expansion or not. I sent my comments to the entire Livermore City coucil (though Livermore residents carry more “sway”). Three voted against the expansion and two voted in favor. CORVA created an entire web page for the expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . BRC’s Don Amador has a blog too: http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2015/05/code-red-carnegie-action-alert-update.html . Dan A, Cal4 & CORVA also asked us also to contact the Alameda County Board of Supervisors to vote in favor of the expansion and the Draft Environmental Impact Statement contracted out by the Calif Dept of Park, OHV Divsion. I did. The county supervisors voted 100% against the DEIS and expansion of Carnegie SVRA on an advisory vote. It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. In part these negative votes by Livermore & Alameda County were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District, who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park. EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos, while Carnegie is the only motorized park and only 900 acres; hopefully to be 3900 acres. The SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and green/yellow sticker fees.

*~X( at wits’ endKnow your Anti-Access Organizations, a sampler:
1. CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many still remain closed to public access until only small sections are repaired.
2. CBD is one of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html. It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys: http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242 and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/
3. Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/

Older Actions

Moab: (for details see previous Saving Our Trails) and https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/03/23/national-call-to-action-help-save-moabs-trails & http://www.cal4wheel.com/access-issues/22-other-states-access-issues/610-moab-trails-need-your-letter-of-support

Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details see previous Saving Our Trails and go to Corva.org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit

Deer Valley Route closures from Jan to July 31 due to Yosemite Toad (see previous Saving Our Trails and latest Eldorado 42 Routes closure news above) http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/541-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-on-deer-valley-trail & http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1909145-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-deer-valley-trail-yosemite-toad.html

Oceano Dunes “air pollution” (for details see previous Saving Our Trails) and: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/central-california-access-issues/595-urgent-comments-needed-on-oceano-svra and https://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Oceano-Dunes/141393079248971 .

Amazon.com has a charity program where they contribute a 0.5% of your purchases to a charity of your choice. One of the charities is Blue Ribbon Coalition, a 501(c)(3) organization. It costs you virtually zero $. So how do you sign up? 1) Sign-in to your Amazon account. 2) On another tab/window, Go to http://www.sharetrails.org/content/support-brc-while-shopping-online to read how it works. 3) Click on http://smile.amazon.com/, and you will see info and a short list of charities. For BRC, type in “BlueRibbon Coalition” exactly as shown here, in the search box. The result should be “Blueribbon Coalition Inc” and “Categories: Natural Resource Conservation and Protection” and “Location: Pocatello, ID”. (Be careful–there are dozens of other ‘Blue Ribbon xxxx’ charities out there, be sure you have the right one.) 4) Click OK to sign-up, and BRC will receive 0.5% of your purchase amounts at no cost to you. To automatically donate, shop only at the “Smile” web address: at https://smile.amazon.com/ (if you use Amazon’s normal web address, no donations are made). You can change charities or cancel anytime.
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There are dozens of other, mostly irrational public land & road closures in the works by the enviro-left/elite, so we encourage everyone to check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Cal4wheel, Corva.org, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news, and contact land managers and government officials and tell them public land is for everyone.

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Oct 13 Meeting Minutes

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Oct 13 Meeting Minutes

Website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com . We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant. Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu to help Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area.

7:30 PM – Meeting starts NOTE: the actual meeting start is 7:30 PM (not 8PM as noted from the yahoo groups automatic reminder email).

 

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed everyone.
Vice President – Brian: unable to attend.
Treasurer – Don: unable to attend
Secretary – Paul: No special news, but check “Saving Our Trails”, below.
Members Attending – Chris W, Chris, Eric, Gary, Lyle, Mario, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry
Brand New Members this month –
Guests Attending – 1, unnamed(?)
(If I missed anyone who attended please let me know.)

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Some of our Yahoo Groups recipients are not getting emails from the server (Chris W., Terry); Check your spam folders! Your secretary removed the emoticons in this issue to see if that helps.
2) Yahoo’s automatic meeting reminders – Need to change our meeting start time from 8 PM to 7:30 PM (7PM dinner).
3) Fire Permits are needed for any fire or stove use outside of improved campgrounds in National Forest or BLM areas. Obtain at http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ and check local area rules too. .

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS, STUFF FOR SALE

1) Chris W – Steering box causing frame cracks, welded in new crossbar & plate steel.
2) Randy – ‘Frankenstein’ Jeep almost ready
3) Steve – Suzuki painting nearly complete
4) Paul – To solve most starting & charging gremlins: “First replace the battery ! “. Don’t finesse it at first. Yup, that did it.
5) Lyle *Pain !* – Told horrific story about being T-boned on freeway while in F350 a few weeks ago by a drunk driver, with no insurance, and was charged with 4 other felonies(!) related to accident. Thankfully no major injuries, but some healing needed for all. All airbags deployed in Lyle’s F350, and all vehicles & trailer totaled (except 1 in trailer). Lyle says F350 design & safety systems saved them. Highway was closed for several hours. Was in Salinas (does alot of bad stuff seem to happen down there?).

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) Sept 12 -13 – Twin Peaks & Ellis Lake+Peak trails. We’ll ran the Twin Peaks route near Sawmill Pond, and parts of the Tahoe side of the Rubicon on Saturday. 33″+ tires & 1 locker recommended. We arrived & stayed Friday & Saturday nights at Terry & Alane’s new place in South Tahoe off Hwy 89. Their house is very nice, in a neighborhood adjacent to national forest land. A big Thanks to Terry and Alane for inviting the group to stay a few nights. And there is a bear story too ! But it was not told.. yet…

Before lunch on on Saturday we went up Twin Peaks Road, which starts at Sawmill pond (copy & paste 38.888885, -120.025223 into Bing map’s search box) There are a few rock gardens on the way. (that have bypasses). At the top is a play area and views of the south Tahoe valley. We finished the trail and had lunch back at Sawmill Pond. the higher rock garden is pretty gnarly. No one went up it, a few went down it.

After lunch, we headed toward the Rubicon trailhead in Tahoma, and took the Ellis Lake/Peak Route located just a half mile in from the staging area. It’s a bumpy, rocky climb up, with a few tricky spots. We should have turned right at 39.057781, -120.200089 but we took the southerly fork to the left which eventually leads back towards the Rubicon. This fork route is not highlighted in the online maps but is clearly visible in the satellite views. (note on map apps: the new Bing maps app allows GPS tagging. Google allows tagging but road details are not as good as Bing. Yahoo Maps is now permanently off the air).

Photos & videos at: https://4door4x4.smugmug.com/Off-Road-Trips-1/Twin-Peaks-and-Ellis-Lake-Sept/n-x6ZFqh. To play a video, use the thumbnail view, and click on the “>” . The videos do not play in the slideshow mode.

2) Sept 18-19-20 Chris W. went the ‘Nocibur’ way into the Rubicon for the Marlin Crawler Round-up a few weeks ago. County workers were working on the V-Notch, but apparently the concrete bags they needed were run over & pushed down the hill by other wheelers, so work trail was suspended. Chris talked to Marlin, and said he’s the nicest guy you’ll ever meet. He went back out the Tahoe side due to traffic towards Loon Lake direction.

3) Chris – Niagara Rim – A few tough spots encountered. (sorry I did not get the details. Chris – feel free to chime-in).

4) Michael – Pinecrest Peak & Eagle Peak, up Hwy 108, off of Herring Creek Rd, ~10 miles past Strawberry. Pretty area up there and on Eagle Peak.

UPCOMING RUNS

1) October 24 – Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail run. Hwy 4 Protocol (per the Adopt-A-Trail run) . Meet at ARCO off of Grant Line Rd Tracy 7:30, Burger King in Angels camp 9:15, Big independent gas station in Arnold at 10, or trailhead at 11 am. Bring lunch and tree trimming tools. Afterward, possible run to Slick Rock or ?

2) November 10- Club Meeting

3) November 14 – Barrett Lake Trail http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/news-events/?cid=STELPRD3847114. One day only, as camping at either lake could be pretty cold. Meet at the trailhead at Wright’s Lake at 9:30 am Saturday. We’ll run halfway in, until 2pm, and return back to Wrights Lake. 33s & rear locker minimum. I’m very interested in running this trail again and see what work was done over the past few years. It’s been some time since the last run. (better to run this trail in October for more daylight & outdoor temps if possible).

2) November 25-29 – Death Valley / Panamint. Eric suggested a few new areas to visit. About 4 rigs signed up so far. Not a hard-core rock crawl run, will be scenic, for exploring & history. Nevertheless, lockers recommended just in case it gets wet. (I think everyone has some kind of lockers now, right? Is anyone still “open-open”?)

3) December 12 – December Club Meeting, Toys for Tots & Christmas Dinner. Meet Saturday afternoon at Antonella’s at 3:30 PM, unless we decide to collect gifts at dinner, and someone to brings them to TFT the next day. If so, then arrive ~5pm; tbd.

8:30 PM – Meeting adjourned.

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in. If you are an active member your name should be on this list:
Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris ?, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS
Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an outcome or completion.

1) California desert:
This is an important opportunity to contact the president & legislators about preserving multiple-use public access to areas in the California desert. CORVA, Cal4, BRC, and ARRA have sent out action alerts on this. Each has a slightly different take on the issue :

CORVA Background info & links: http://www.corva.org/email

CAL4 Background info: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/southern-california-access-issues/647-feinstein-to-host-public-meeting-on-proposed-desert-monument-designations
Action Link: http://cqrcengage.com/cal4wheel/app/onestep-write-a-letter?11&engagementId=136354

BRC- (BRC is using ARRA’s action alert page for this) Background info & link:
https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/10/08/urgent-letters-needed-oppose-going-forward-designation

You can create a brief or extended comment using the CORVA links, and/or read the talking points from the Cal4 & BRC/ARRA links which have other detailed information. Keep comments respectful & professional. I took the suggested text from Cal4 & BRC/ARRA, re-wrote the text in my own words, and sent comments using CORVA’s links. CORVA’s links are generic, direct to Pres. Obama, Sen. Mukowski, etc, whereas Cal4/ARRA copy & forward your text & basic personal info to the president & legislators. I also copied Dept. of Interior.

2) Jeff Blewett, Cal4 Wheel’s Natural Resource Consultant for No. Calif. just reported latest status these trails in the Fall issue of Cal4’s IN GEAR magazine:.
Deer/Clover Valley- Cal4: “late summer” ENF: “Fall 2016 or Summer 2016”
Pardoe’s/Squaw Ridge(‘Squaw’ renamed ‘Hungaleti Ridge Trail’) Cal4: “by the FS it is open”; ENF “mitigation work starts Fall 2016 or Summer 2016.
Strawberry Ridge- Cal4: “Summer 2016”; ENF “Summer 2017”
ENF’s overall route status is at : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=fsbdev7_019037 . Finally a June 2015 update on the 42 Routes initially closed is at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3843438.pdf.
Many lessor-known routes are re-opened, but the best remain closed. Some of the route status in this update appear to be in conflict with Cal4’s assessments:
There are apparently no “public” links from the ENF Home webpage to the 42 Route Project web page, but it’s at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=stelprdb5362046

3) Carnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore:
There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted to keep it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres. CORVA created an entire web page for the expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. In part these negative votes by Livermore & Alameda County were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District, who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park. EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos, while Carnegie is the only motorized park in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos and is only 900 acres; (hopefully to be ~3900 acres). The SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and green sticker fees.

4) Know your Anti-Access Organizations – a sampler:
CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many still remain closed to public access until only small sections are repaired.
CBD is one of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html. It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys: http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242 and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/
PEER (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/

Older Actions

1) Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details see previous Saving Our Trails and go to Corva.org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit

2) Deer Valley Route closures from Jan to July 31 due to Yosemite Toad (see previous Saving Our Trails and latest Eldorado 42 Routes closure news above) http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/541-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-on-deer-valley-trail & http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1909145-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-deer-valley-trail-yosemite-toad.html
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Let Amazon.com contribute a 0.5% of your purchases to BRC. The Blue Ribbon Coalition, a 501(c)(3) organization. It costs virtually zero $. How do you sign up? 1) Sign-in to your Amazon account. 2) On another tab/window, Go to http://www.sharetrails.org/content/support-brc-while-shopping-online to read how it works. 3) Click on http://smile.amazon.com/, and you will see info and a short list of charities. For BRC, type in “BlueRibbon Coalition” exactly as shown here, in the search box. The result should be “Blueribbon Coalition Inc” and “Categories: Natural Resource Conservation and Protection” and “Location: Pocatello, ID”. (Be careful–there are dozens of other ‘Blue Ribbon xxxx’ charities out there, be sure you have the right one.) 4) Click OK to sign-up, and BRC will receive 0.5% of your purchase amounts at no cost to you. To automatically donate, shop only at the “Smile” web address: https://smile.amazon.com/ (if you use Amazon’s normal web address, no donations are made). You can change charities or cancel anytime.
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There are dozens of other, mostly irrational public land & road closures in the works by the enviro-left/elite, so we encourage everyone to check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Cal4wheel, Corva.org, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news, and contact land managers and government officials and tell them public land is for everyone.

GETTIN’ OFF 4WD Off-Road Club – Aug 11 2015 MEETING MINUTES

Website: http://www.gettinoff4x4.com . We meet monthly, every 2nd Tuesday in the patio area at Antonella’s Ristorante, 1701 Park Avenue, San Jose , CA 95126 (408) 279-4922. Park on Naglee Ave or in the parking lot across from the restaurant. Meeting minutes are distributed a few days after each club meeting.

7:00 PM – BUFFET DINNER: Salad, Pasta, Pizza, Bread & Soft drinks($10). Attendees are encouraged to enjoy the buffet dinner or order from the menu to help Antonella’s recover the cost of using the patio area.

7:30 PM – Meeting starts NOTE: the actual meeting start is 7:30 PM (not 8PM from the yahoo groups automatic reminder email).

WELCOME and BOARD REPORTS

President – Terry: Welcomed members & guests.
Vice President – Brian: no announcements.
Treasurer – Don: A few still need to pay dues. T-Shirts have been ordered and are in stock now. Contact Don by email or at the next meeting. New members get a shirt & decal included with initial membership.
Secretary – Paul: no announcements.
Members Attending – Aaron, Brian, Chris 4R, Chris JK, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Jon, Lyle, Marco, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.
Brand New Members this month –
Guests Attending – Andy 85 4-Runner, welcome!
(If I missed you or anyone else who attended please let me know.)

CLUB NEWS, ONGOING ACTIONS & IDEAS

1) Club web page is fixed ! Eric looked into problem with editing & solved issue.
2) Some of our Yahoo groups recipients are not getting emails from the server (Chris W for example); and meeting start time to be fixed..
3) Fire Permits are needed for any fire or stove used outside of improved campgrounds in National Forest or BLM areas, when allowed.Brian suggests http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ .

VEHICLE PAINS & PROJECTS, STUFF FOR SALE

1) Chris 4R: Smog issues. (ed.: a new cat could help; prices have dropped).
2) Marco: Installed body lift & new fenders
3) Eric: Tranny leak/water pump leak, part of recall that dealer attempted to fix, took 2 times.
4) Terry: ’02 SC300 acquired.
5) Randy: D35 axles for sale cheap.
6) Chris JK: Body lean and wobble fixed (ed: check for too much toe-in)

RECENT RUNS & ‘CHANCES TO LOCK AXLES’

1) August 14,15,16 BBQ Run: Bear Valley Loop Trail. A few arrived Thursday to reserve campsites, and by Friday evening nearly everyone had arrived. That evening most of the group drove up Sardine Peak for a gorgeous view and to appreciate the fantastic restoration of the Sardine Peak Fire Lookout. It can be rented this year for free from Tahoe Nat’l Forest. On Sat morning we ran most but not the last few miles the 20-mile Bear Valley Loop trail, avoiding most of the manzanita, but ended up with little brush rash anyway. It’s a moderately difficult route overall, with a few bypasses at the steep spots. The 2nd winch hill caught a few rigs who needed the winch, mostly for traction but also to keep rigs on all fours. Other than the few winch-ups, a tricky rock garden or two, & Matt’s steering box leak (later fixed) the run went without a hitch. A young deer running nearly slammed into my front fender, as I only crawling along up a hill.

The BBQ went very well with plenty of great food to eat. On the Door prizes, the folding chair & slingshot were traded the most. A Big thanks to every one for helping at the BBQ set up, cooking & clean up. Tim (Paul H’s buddy) and I were the last to leave the campground, and then one of the bow-hunters camped nearby had to ‘shake our hands’ for cleaning the campsites up so well. So kudos to everyone!

On Sunday we had a bonus run to Snake Lake. Tim & I ran just part of the trail, since it took some time to get to the trailhead using the Gold Lake lakeshore route on the south side. Yes it is a PITA because there are lots of stock pickups tip-toeing over the rocks & boulders along the way. But it is a beautiful place to camp, right along the Gold Lake shore. We saw some great views along the way up to Snake Lake. We arrived at Snake Lake Loop about 12:30 pm and made it to Little Deer Lake, only about 1/4 of the loop. Other than winch hill 2 at Bear Valley Loop, Snake Lake trail is rougher, with more steep climbs and ‘proper rock-crawling’ compared to Bear Valley Loop. At 2 PM we headed back, and located the short cut routes back to the Gold Lake highway, that Tim from Diablo Valley 4-Wheelers described. It’s much faster but has several L & R turns. We got home about 8 PM. http://4x4trailmaps.com/4x4Trails.php?Trail_ID=47 .

I will have photos of both runs soon, with a description of how to reach Snake Lake route using the fast way (hint: use Sardine Road, a left turn off of Gold Lake Highway, about 1 mile before Gold Lake. Do no use the bumpy route to the OHV campground).

2) Andy (new guest) Ran Rubicon with JK Club in late July.

UPCOMING RUNS

1) Aug 20-21-22 – Run the Rubicon with Chris W. (contact Chris W. directly)

2) Sept. 8 – Club Meeting

3) Sept 12 -13 – Deer Valley & Twin Peaks trails. We’ll run DV trail on Saturday. Hwy 4 Protocol (per the Adopt-A-Trail run) . You can stay Sat night at Terry’s new place in South Tahoe off Hwy 89. 33″+ tires & 1 locker recommended. A ‘side’ run will be the Twin Peaks route near Sawmill Pond possibly on Sunday morning. Details at the next meeting.

4) Sept 26-27 – Barrett Lake Trail is Open !! See http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/news-events/?cid=STELPRD3847114. This will be an overnight run. Optionally camp at Wrights Lake Friday night, On Saturday run Barrett Lake one way and camp there Sat night. Run the trail back out Sunday morning.

5) October 17 or 24 – Sourgrass Adopt-A-Trail run.

6) November 25-29 – Death Valley / Panamint or somewhere else in the desert run (Calico Hills & area?).

7) December – Toys for Tots & Christmas dinner.

***Summer season: It is possible certain National Forests may “close” OHV mid-to-late summer due to fire hazard***.

8:30 PM – Meeting adjourned.

If there are any corrections, clarifications or updates, please chime-in. If you are an active member your name should be on this list:
Aaron, Alicia, Brad, Brian, Chris W, Chris ?, Dimas, Don, Eric, Gary, Genna, Jon, Joe, Lyle, Marco, Mario, Matt, Michael, Paul E, Paul H, Rahul, Randy, Roger, Ron, Steve, Terry, Tom K, Tom W.

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SAVING OUR TRAILS
Updates and New info in BOLD type. If you have new information feel free to send out an update. Though some are several months old, they are still active projects waiting for an outcome or completion.

Recent Actions

*:-w waiting Here’s the latest on our cherished yet closed Eldorado trails, direct from Jeff Blewett, Cal4 Wheel’s Natural Resource Consultant for No. Calif.. Cal4 appears overly optimistic , while ENF has just published its own status.
Deer/Clover Valley- Cal4: “late summer” ENF: “Fall 2016 or Summer 2016”
Pardoe’s/Squaw Ridge(‘Squaw’ renamed ‘Hungaleti Ridge Trail’) Cal4: “by the FS it is open”; ENF “mitigation work starts Fall 2016 or Summer 2016.
Strawberry Ridge- Cal4: “Summer 2016”; ENF “Summer 2017”
*:D big grin Barrett Lake- Cal4: OPEN !! – Finally…See http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/news-events/?cid=STELPRD3847114
ENF’s overall route status is at : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=fsbdev7_019037
Finally a June 2015 update on the 42 Routes initially closed is at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3843438.pdf
Many lessor-known routes are re-opened, but the best remain closed. Some of the route status in this update appear to be in conflict with Cal4’s assessments:
There are apparently no “public” links from the ENF Home webpage to the 42 Route Project web page, but it’s at: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldorado/home/?cid=stelprdb5362046

*:-h waveSome of you are familiar with the Carnegie State Vehicle Recreation Area near Livermore. It has been controversial from a “greenie/enviro” perspective. There have been attempts in the past to close it, but the riding public, CORVA, local Carnegie groups, and the Calif Dept of Parks-OHV Div have persisted and kept it open. A few years ago a new 4×4 obstacle course was created. Right now, they plan to open up a new area, adding about 3000 acres, with dozens of miles of new trails for motorcycles and 4x4s added to the existing 900 acres. There was a city council meeting in Livermore to take and advisory (non-binding) vote on wheather the city of Livermore supports the Carnegie expansion or not. I sent my comments days earlier to the entire Livermore City coucil (however Livermore residents carry much more “sway”). Three voted against the expansion and only 2 voted in favor. CORVA created an entire web page for the Carnagie/Tesla SVRA expansion, which is chalk full of great resources and information: http://www.corva.org/Carnegie-SVRA-Expansion . BRC’s Don Amador has a blog too: http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2015/05/code-red-carnegie-action-alert-update.html . Dan A, Cal4 & CORVA also asked us also to contact the Alameda County Board of Supervisors to vote in favor of the expansion and the Draft Environmental Impact Statement contracted out by the Calif Dept of Park, OHV Divsion. I did. The county supervisors voted 100% against the DEIS and expansion of Carnegie SVRA on an advisory vote. It’s hard to know if this will be litigated, but it is moving that direction. In part these negative votes by Liver more & Alameda Couty, were promulgated by the East Bay Regional Park District, who set up a false public expectation that this land could be acquired by them and converted to another regional (non-motorized) park. EPRPD has 120,000 park acres in Alameda & Contra Costa Cos, whereas motorized parks are now only 900 acres, to be 3900 acres we hope. The SVRA owns the land, purchased by money from the OHV Trust fund, which comes from a tiny fraction of gasoline taxes and green/yellow sticker fees.

*~X( at wits’ endKnow your Anti-Access Organizations, a sampler:
1. CSNC is the group that sued Eldorado National Forest and successfully convinced a judge to force ENF to close and/or repair trails. One of CSNC’s primary goals is to limit OHV. Website http://www.sierranevadaconservation.org/achievements/. While we generally have no issue repairing or re-routing routes around what have recently been identified as ‘sensitive’ areas, there was no need to close the entire lengths of all 42 routes for 2, 3 years or more. Many have re-opened, but many still remain closed to public access until only small sections are repaired.
2. CBD is one of the most notorious and powerful anti-access organizations. They often tend to lump motorized recreation access in with all forms of habitat interference, even though 99% of OHV use causes very little or virtually zero affect on animal habitat & popluation. Sample: “… cumulative threats from our changing climate, predation, drought, disease, and off-road recreation; and other threats all support an endangered listing….” re: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/birds/Gunnison_sage_grouse/pdfs/Gunnison_sage_grouse_NOI.pdf and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/off-road_vehicles/index.html. It’s very interesting they almost never mention other causes of habitat interferences such as: hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, camping, hunting, wildfires, highways, fences, etc. But apparently off-road recreation is “equal” with climate change, predation, drought & disease! CBD are also well known for launching a plethora of lawsuits, using the “Sue & Settle” tactic, thus taking millions of taxpayer dollars from the Forest Service & BLM to pay their attorneys: http://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242 and http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/
3. Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) http://www.peer.org/campaigns/public-lands/off-road-wreckreation/news-releases.html and http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/01/07/court-orders-tighter-off-road-plan-for-stanislaus-forest/

Older Actions

Moab: (for details see previous Saving Our Trails) and https://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2015/03/23/national-call-to-action-help-save-moabs-trails & http://www.cal4wheel.com/access-issues/22-other-states-access-issues/610-moab-trails-need-your-letter-of-support

Plumas National Forest lawsuit. (for details see previous Saving Our Trails and go to Corva.org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN3Xdy0CKM&feature=youtu.be and http://www.corva.org/FS.Lawsuit

Deer Valley Route closures from Jan to July 31 due to Yosemite Toad (see previous Saving Our Trails and latest Eldorado 42 Routes closure news above) http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/northern-california-access-issues/541-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-on-deer-valley-trail & http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-use-issues/1909145-forest-service-proposing-seasonal-closure-deer-valley-trail-yosemite-toad.html

Oceano Dunes “air pollution” (for details see previous Saving Our Trails) and: http://cal4wheel.com/access-issues/central-california-access-issues/595-urgent-comments-needed-on-oceano-svra and https://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Oceano-Dunes/141393079248971 .

Amazon.com has a charity program where they contribute a 0.5% of your purchases to a charity of your choice. One of the charities is Blue Ribbon Coalition, a 501(c)(3) organization. It costs you virtually zero $. So how do you sign up? 1) Sign-in to your Amazon account. 2) On another tab/window, Go to http://www.sharetrails.org/content/support-brc-while-shopping-online to read how it works. 3) Click on http://smile.amazon.com/, and you will see info and a short list of charities. For BRC, type in “BlueRibbon Coalition” exactly as shown here, in the search box. The result should be “Blueribbon Coalition Inc” and “Categories: Natural Resource Conservation and Protection” and “Location: Pocatello, ID”. (Be careful–there are dozens of other ‘Blue Ribbon xxxx’ charities out there, be sure you have the right one.) 4) Click OK to sign-up, and BRC will receive 0.5% of your purchase amounts at no cost to you. To automatically donate, shop only at the “Smile” web address: at https://smile.amazon.com/ (if you use Amazon’s normal web address, no donations are made). You can change charities or cancel anytime.
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There are dozens of other, mostly irrational public land & road closures in the works by the enviro-left/elite, so we encourage everyone to check Blue Ribbon Coalition, Cal4wheel, Corva.org, and Pirate4x4 websites for the latest access news, and contact land managers and government officials and tell them public land is for everyone.